Has there ever been a more stupid expression than that?
I spent my formative years hearing this from the lips of every adult I ever encountered. Knowing no better, I believed it to be true, and repeated it myself, without a vestige of embarrassment.
As winter arrived every year, pipes froze, and we huddled around insufficient heating in draughty rooms, we would look across at each other, nodding sagely. Before long, someone would say “Well, at least it’s too cold to snow”, and we would grin in agreement.
What was this fallacy based on? I cannot imagine the ancient Celts staring at the sky, shivering in woolen cloaks, and stating that at least there would be no snow. Perhaps an over-enthusiastic weather forecaster once said it, intending his remark to be humourous? Always ready to believe anything they are told by some authority figure, the people of this country kept repeating this meteorological mantra, until it became accepted as fact.
Right up until the age of 25, I said it more times than I care to mention. Even staring out of my window looking at two feet of snow covering the street, I would pronounce, “It must have warmed up. It’s been snowing”.
Then I went on holiday to Russia, in February.
I had never experienced cold like it. We arrived in a temperature of minus twenty (F), and it dropped down to minus twenty five within two days. Being outside for too long could freeze your cheeks, and people removed the windscreen wipers from their cars when they parked, so they would not freeze and crumble. The sea was frozen, in the Gulf of Finland. That was a sight to see, I can tell you. At the airport in Leningrad, as we queued to depart for Moscow, we had the unsettling vision of men with hammers and iron bars, pounding the ice off the wings of our waiting aircraft, so it wouldn’t be too heavy to take off.
But wait. It was snowing. Not a little snow, but snow deep enough to cover a person, were it not for the fact that a veritable army of people and machines laboured around the clock to shift it. I was very confused. It was colder than I had ever known it to be back in England, but still snowing. And it didn’t stop snowing.
I stood in that airport feeling like I had been duped for twenty-five years.
And I never let anyone get away with saying “It’s too cold for snow” again.
That really is a stupid expression!!! 😂😂😂 Kisses and hugs to you, Pete!❤💞
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Thanks, honey. Glad you agree! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete. xx
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You’re welcome, love!😍💖 ⛄ Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow! ❄❄❄
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Ha ha! You are absolutely right, Pete. It is a bit of a daft expression. We’ve had plenty of snow in Romania at temperatures often deemed ‘too cold for snow’ in the UK.
‘What is this fallacy based on?’ Interesting question. As Susanne has already said, some websites suggest scientific explanations for the saying, along the lines that colder air cannot carry as much moisture and hence (at lower than -15 F) heavy snowfalls are less likely. However, I don’t think the average Celt (ancient or modern) is going to be thinking at all scientifically if and when he comes out with such a phrase. Rather, I think the expression probably originated from the fact that the coldest temperatures in any individual location are always going to be when the sky is clear (something your average Celt *is* likely to notice). By this reckoning, ‘too cold for snow’ in Norfolk will always be warmer than ‘too cold for snow’ in Romania which, in turn, will be warmer than ‘too cold for snow’ in Moscow or Antarctica. It’s worth noting, for example, that the coldest ground-level temperature ever recorded (of -128 F brrrr!) was made on a clear night rather than a snowy one: https://wmo.asu.edu/content/world-lowest-temperature. Too cold for snow?! 😉
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Thanks for the link, Ros. We got snow overnight, and I didn’t notice it was very warm, even in bed. Perhaps the next time snow is forecast, I should iron some shorts to wear? 🙂 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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🙂 Rather you than me 🙂
To be honest, I think ‘cold’ often felt colder in SW England than it does in Romania because there was a lot more wind. And a Russian student friend of ours claimed years ago that Northumberland felt colder than Moscow on account of the damp (sea fog). Which suggests that even ‘too warm for snow’ need not be exactly what we’d call warm!
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I heard that on the weather report this noon, apparently because the air is so dry that the snow won’t get to the ground. I rely on the smell of snow coming. Not at all scientific, but true.
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I just rely on it snowing because it’s cold, Elizabeth. 🙂
(Not scientific either…)
We are forecast to have temperatures of -4 C tonight, with snow!
Best wishes, Pete.
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We had snow last night and today and bitter cold, though not as cold as Chicago.
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Compared to that Polar Vortex in the US, we have been lucky over here.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Hope you escape it. It is nasty.
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Well said Pete. So many sayings are just verbal tics to fill Dead air. Regards thom
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Thanks, Thom. Those people in the Met Office are still trying to perpetuate so many of them. The only one I still adhere to is ‘Ne’er cast a clout, ’til May be out’. 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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One of your best weather posts. 🙂
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Makes a nice change from complaining about mud, Lloyd. 🙂
(That said, my dog-walk yesterday was very slippery…)
Best wishes, Pete.
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🙂
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Expertly debunked with enough warmth to warrant a fresh dusting 🙂
I had to wait until I went to Iceland to work this one out myself, and then when I got to Poland!
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You get so much snow there, it must obviously be a warm country! 🙂 🙂
Cheers mate, Pete.
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I oncfe read that Muscovited don’t feel they really come alive until the temperature drops to minus 40! I have never been to Russia to see if this is true.
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I went three times, but twice during better weather, in summer and autumn.
The first trip in that February was a revelation. We traveled down to Kiev, into even colder weather, and I had to buy a fur hat. I still have it, to this day. 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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I visited Finland in September and I had to wear my warmest jacket, Pete. I hate to imagine winter there. It reminds me of my mom’s saying that eating carrots helps you see in the dark. I always believed that. When I was doing research for our book, While the Bombs Fell, I learned that this was a fallacy encouraged by the UK government in an attempt to keep radar a secret. They told the public the British pilots were so successful because they ate carrots.
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Good example, Robbie. The carrot propaganda endured right into my teens! 🙂
Finland is more or less ‘opposite’ Leningrad, so would have the same weather in winter. I have never been so cold. (But it was still a fantastic trip!)
Best wishes, Pete.
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I think you sent us all googling this one to see what the ‘experts’ say and the consensus seems to be strictly speaking, no, it can’t be too cold to snow. Of course there were lots of qualifiers and explanations and why heavy snowfall is less likely when temperatures fall beneath 0 degrees F, etc. etc. But the bottom line is Pete, you are right! And you can’t argue with experience. 🙂
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I refute all the scientific mumbo-jumbo, Susanne. It snows in the coldest places on earth. Enough said! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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I got lost in all the explanations too! You can’t argue with Russia! 😉
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I had once heard that snow forms as air pollution increases, due to the moisture attachments to dirt particles. For years I had also used your reasoning, which was mentioned at the beginning. 😉 Best wishes, Michael
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It’s just simple, Michael. When it is very cold, it freezes, or it snows. We don’t need any science to tell us why it is snowing, or not. We feel very cold, then it snows. 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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So true, Pete! And we normally have to care for pedestrians. 😉
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Yikes! Minus twenty degrees AND snowing? I’m going to stop moaning when it’s snowing and in the single digits or teens.☃️
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Yes, too cold to snow indeed! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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I was in Chicago when it was -14 degrees, and I can only imagine being twice as cold or more!
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Russian winters have to be see t be believed, John. I had never been that cold, and never have since! 🙂
And that was in the west, where it isn’t anywhere near as cold as Siberia.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Pete, you know I posted about a book on Siberia, and Werner Herzog’s documentary’s documentary as well – I love seeing this sort of extreme living, but won’t be doing it myself – it dipped under 50 one day in LA and we had to turn the heat on high!
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Snow is beautiful. But then comes the slush…
I have to admit that I miss seeing snowfall, but I don’t miss the cold.
What’s even more beautiful than snow is the aftermath of an ice storm, where trees (and everything else) become crystalline. Also, it’s fun to crunch the grass. I miss that, too. (Although ice storms can also cause a lot of damage.)
It’s rare to see the snow fall in desert valleys, but I’ve witnessed it. If I really want to play in the snow, I can do so in less than an hour by driving up to Mt. Charleston, whose snow-capped peak peers over the lower Spring Mountains at the valley.
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Snow is best viewed from a distance, in my opinion. Preferably, a great distance! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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I think the snow in Russia blows in from the equator. 😀
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Yes, BF. It must be ‘warm-air snow’! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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And I thought the cold and I snow in New England was bad. There is a law of physics that supports the “too cold for snow” saying. When air is extremely cold, it cannot hold moisture, therefore no snow in bitter cold weather. Best to you, Pete, and stay warm!
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That’s what I meant! But more succinctly put here 😊
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🙂
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Thanks, Jennie. I say “Bah” to Physics! 🙂 🙂
It is extremely cold in Moscow in the winter, I assure you.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I can’t even imagine. Pete. Brrr… Best to you.
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I’ve been in a wind-chill factor of 25 below in Vermont, but the type of weather you’re talking about with frozen cheeks – yikes!
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But was it snowing in Vermont, GP? 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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No, just windy – very windy!!
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It’s the moisture in the air that defines whether it snows in cold temperatures, from the weather centre– “The ingredients for snow are: (1) a temperature profile that allows snow to reach the surface, (2) saturated air, and (3) enough lifting of that saturated air to allow snow to develop aloft and fall to reach the surface. In a situation when it is said “it is too cold to snow” there is in reality not enough lifting of air that causes snow to reach the surface.”
So there ya go!
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Nope, not buying it. Those weather men are just fooling us! 🙂 🙂
I conclude that it is never too cold to snow!
Best wishes, Pete.
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😀😀😂
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You have travelled widely, Sue. I’m sure you get what I am on about.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I certainly do, I have been ‘the soft Southerner’! But was excused when I mentioned that my mother was a Yorkshire woman!
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Wow!
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Some people still say it, Marina. It drives me crazy! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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I remember my driving instructor going off on a rant when I said it was too cold to snow, demanding if I thought it was warm at the North Pole! Still, I think there is some truth in the saying here as snow often comes after there’s been rain which must be milder than if it was a frosty day. My mother insisted you could hear a silence before snow fell! I don’t think that particular saying caught on as I never heard anyone else saying it.
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Nice that you still cling to that, Mary. But I just don’t get it anymore. 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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And we only see it in pictures 😦
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That’s the best place for it! We have snow forecast for Wednesday, so I hope they got it wrong. 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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THe cold in Russia….the two most valuable generals in the Russian army….General January and General February……since we do not get much snow down here I have little knowledge of these sayings…..about the one I use to hear was if it rained with the sun out it would rain the same time the next day……dumb huh? chuq
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Some of those old sayings hold water. But not this one! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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