153 thoughts on “UPDATE! WordPress Owners: Please Read

  1. Reblogged this on My Inner MishMash and commented:
    As a visually impaired blogger who blogs solely for the fun of it, at least for the time being and for the foreseeable future, as well as someone who is not extremely techy, I really dislike the block editor, and seems like there are lots of us who think similarly of it, so if you’re my follower, don’t like the idea either and haven’t seen or shared this post before, please do, and maybe it’ll help change the WP people’s minds on this so we will still have a choice in which editor we want to use, as they were initially saying we would.
    I haven’t yet been transitioned to the block editor, which I’m very happy about, but apparently a lot of people have had such a change executed against their will already so it seems like the rest of us can expect it to happen.
    I realise that WordPress people have put effort into making block editor accessible for screen readers, and I appreciate that it can be more useful and attractive for some people with specific blogging needs and requirements than the old WordPress editor, but, as I commented on Cyranny’s blog a little while ago, there’s quite a difference between accessibility and plain usability/user-friendliness. In my opinion, the block editor, despite not inaccessible, is not blind-user-friendly, and, given how many sighted bloggers complain about it as well, the problem is definitely not limited to blind people.
    Of course we could all get used to block editor – or such is my big hope anyway – but it seems kind of counter-productive that people, instead of coming up with new ideas for blog posts and focusing on their writing, would have to focus primarily on the minute (or not so minute) technical details of creating a blog post and getting used to a new way of doing it when there’s no reason for change, from their perspective. – This could discourage a lot of people from blogging on here, and while most likely would not totally discourage myself, the result would probably be that I would post alll my posts via email, and such posts don’t look particularly visually-pleasing, as far as I’m aware.
    My blog is on the free plan since I’ve started blogging on here, as so far I haven’t felt a pressuring need for upgrading yet, but if a fee could indeed make WordPress reconsider their decision and keep them from delighting us with forced changes like this, I’d be very happy to pay this fee, as blogging is something very important to me and has made a lot of positive changes in my life and mental well-being, and I haven’t seen a more accessible blogging platform than WordPress so far. Somehow though, I doubt that the fee could really solve this problem. Hopefully I’m wrong, or there’s some other solution to this to make everyone involved possibly happy.
    So, people, if you think similarly to Pete, me, and lots of other bloggers and haven’t yet done it, please share Pete’s post with your readers as well so Happiness Engineers can see how many of us are there not liking this new editor. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  2. Thanks
    I came to WP because I don’t want to have to think.
    I have to think at work, I just want the ease of blogging at home.
    I’ve been hiding with the old editor (dealing with the quirks as I knew they were tightening their grip on the new block editor)…worried it will eventually disappear..

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  3. Reblogged this on Plaisted Publishing House and commented:
    HATE it with a vengeance… It’s bloody awful. I’m in my fifties…I’m a designer and like having control of my blogging. You lose it big time with BLOCK EDITOR… I also work with visually impaired bloggers, this mean’s my work now takes twice as long… ANNOYING… In fact, I’ve not posted since it was forced on me… DISAPPOINTED.

    You can get the plugin Classic Editor, however, you need a Business Account to use it…You can get a partial Classic on WP-ADMIN area, though the Justify is missing…Still not found it and I hate untidy posts. Still Muttering and WP have stopped replying to me.

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  4. I have just had to bite the bullet and embrace Windows 10…I loved my windows 7…sigh and then read windows 11 is coming out…Nooooo!….I can’t cope with blocks and things as well I like the classic editor and hanging in there with that…

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    1. I have been using W10 since I got this new PC. I just use the basic functions, and still miss Windows XP. ๐Ÿ™‚ 11 is due out soon, so remember to get the free upgrade when it’soffered. I had to suffer all the issues when 7 was no longer supported, resulting in my old PC becoming as good as useless.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. I ditched Windows for Linux back in 2011- a much better operating system that doesn’t get viruses, and when new distributions are brought out they are not so different to the previous one as to be difficult to fathom out! My current netbook runs on the Peppermint 9 distribution.

        I got a Chromebook from cash converters in 2013. It died ( wouldn’t stay switched on) but had served me so well I got another Chromebook a few days ago as Chromebooks are my fave computers. So fast, sleek, integrated and again no viruses, updates itself etc.

        No way would I ever buy a Windows computer again: all those virus threats, disk defragging, updates that take forever etc.

        I know a lot of people miss 7!

        Last time I had a Windows computer it was a desktop running on 2000 Millennium.

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        1. I am not very tech-savvy, so have always been wary of the Linux system, despite so many users praising it. I did consider a Chromebook this time, but wanted the extra storage for my photos which they don’t have. Just writing my blog is the high watermark of my technical prowess, and even then I have bad days. ๐Ÿ™‚
          Best wishes, Pete.

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          1. I’m not technical but I managed to learn to use Linux and even once put on one of the Linux distributions ( operating system- Linux has a few choices) by following online instructions by an IT expert who actually created the systems! I have learned a fair bit off him. You can buy extra storage on Google drive when you have a Chromebook. I might do this if I need to in the future. I also have a Maxtor portable hard drive for file storage. Regards to you.

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        2. lol – 2000 was my favourite OS too, until 7 came along. And I’m still using 7. The fact that’s unsupported doesn’t worry me as I always have a top of the range antivirus on it. I’ll check 11 reviews when it comes out, but I’m definitely not jumping in until I’m a) sure it offers more than what I currently have and b) doesn’t try steal my personal data the way 10 does. [I have 10 on the laptop I never use].

          You can turn a lot of the surveillance stuff off [on 10] but I’m not techie enough to know what else is /hidden/ from view.

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          1. I actually wasn’t that keen on 2000 but was glad to have a computer as I couldn’t afford one at the time. A friend built it for me and gave me it.

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      2. Sorry Pete but I’m baffled. Why did your pc become ‘as good as useless’ just because 7 stopped being supported??? If you run a good antivirus [my 2 favs are Kaspersky and Bitdefender] you shouldn’t have any problems.

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        1. I have no idea why the PC started to operate erratically, but it seemed a strange coincidence that it happened so soon after the support for W7 stopped. It was almost 8 years old, and had worked well up to that point. It took a very long time to boot up, and some things I was using, like Yahoo Mail, began to refuse to load. But the main issue was the failure to recognise everyday things, like the keyboard, my portable hard drive, camera memory card, the phone app for transferring photos, and so on. I installed driver updates, and was using a good antivirus and disk cleaner, etc, but it continued to slow down and would not open accessories. As I said, I am unskillled with technology, and became frustrated. So I bought a new PC with an SSD instead, and so far it has worked well.
          Best wishes, Pete.

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          1. Hmm…it could just be that your pc hardware was ready to give up. Eight years is pretty good going for computer hardware. Nevertheless, the timing does seem odd.
            Starting wonder whether now wouldn’t be a good time to learn how to use Linux. I’ve put it off for a long time out of a) fear of the unknown and b) because I still teach about Windows & Windows related software. Don’t know. :/

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  5. I hate it and it is foul and hard to use, although I understand there are alternatives like the old ways available–they sent some email recently saying so and yet it did not show me all I needed to know about how to use it. I wouldn’t pay a fee to use what is still a viable option in their system, and I hope you can work around this wretched mess. A friend had been going to switch to worpress but I can’t recommend it now–they spend lots of effort shooting at themselves and hitting everyone around them.

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      1. They seem to make messes in order to call it progress and justify jobs like ‘development’ something-or-other. The thing with the internet and its jobs is that the users mostly get accustomed to certain things, and yet the ‘developers’ have to bulldoze those things inorder to have jobs–the equivalent of cutting down trees for the makework that people do it for these days. It’s another version of ‘the gift that keeps on taking’.

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      2. Actually, my site is still the old way, and it has some little choice to go to the disastrous block thing, but it is not my default. When it first showed up, I objected, contacted the people I think, and they told me how to go to the style I like. I forget the details, but it can be done. Maybe it does not have to be your default either if you don’t want it–

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    1. I am same. I wouldn’t pay even a small fee to keep what I love.
      It just gives them an incentive to bump the price up till no longer affordable.
      I would have shared the post, had it not mentioned the fee part.

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        1. Yes, I knew where you were coming from with this. Money talks as they say.
          I can imagine that this must eventually cause a knock on affect with WP, because us that use the free blogging platform, if we go, then they won’t get to advertise on our free blogs. So less places to advertise.

          My blog won’t disappear immediately. But blogging is definitely stopping for me here, at the end of the year. I will only use WP to comment on other peopleโ€™s blogs.

          In a year or two time from when I stopped blogging, would be when I would consider taking down my blog.

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  6. Well, in spite of my best efforts, I’ve had to resort to the Classic block yet again to format something in the story I’m currently serialising. I thought the Quote block would do it, but when you go to Preview it’s far too big a font and I can’t find a way to reduce it, so it’s back to the Classic Block (and those annoying pop-ups that ask if you want to try Blocks).
    I’d forgotten how easy it is to change text colour in the Classic setup – just click on the colour square of your choice. In the new setup, if I want any colour that isn’t part of my theme’s extremely limited colour scheme to look the same throughout the blog post, I have to copy and paste the code for the colour I’ve chosen into the other text selections. Dunno who thought that was a good idea…

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    1. The whole thing is a complete mess, designed for companies, advertisers, and professionals. It may well be the end of using WP for many of us, if it doesn’t have a change of heart.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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  7. I agree totally with you. I did my last post with block editor and felt myself losing my usual positive spirit about blogging.
    I have on several occasion ad lengthy chat conversations with WordPress where I am told it is easy and I can follow a link they provided.

    I begged to be left with Classic where I could use the tool without problem .

    So, with you.

    Miriam

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  8. Thanks! I do not like it all!! I feel like it creates a reason not to post, at least for me. Isn’t it hard enough to keep a blog going? Isn’t WordPress here to help? Don’
    t they, in the end work for us? I guess not….

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    1. Sadly, they work for profit, like most companies. The big money comes in from business users, and advertisers targeting those same people. The ‘small fry’ like us are simply collateral damage in the path of their progress.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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  9. I just got an email from WP that those of us who donโ€™t like the new editor, can continue using the Classic Editor in WP admin. So it seems all is not lost. They must have had a lot of complaints.

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        1. Yes, that’s what I have read. I would be surprised if they keep it after then. Unless of course the knock on effect of us disappearing makes them reconsider. But I won’t be coming back to blog here again, once gone. Only to comment.

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  10. Pete,
    I agree with you that I don’t really like the new editor (being forced upon us). But I don’t think WP will react, especially as they have not (yet ??) taken away the classic editor. It is still available, even if in a somewhat roundabout way.
    If you end up with the new one – as is usual nowadays – just click on the “+” button at the top of the screen, search for “Classic” and insert that block. This way, you kind of get a “classic block”.
    You can also go – as some comments here suggested – via “WP Admin” on the dashboard -> “Posts” -> “add New”. That takes you directly to the classic editor.
    I’d suggest that you bookmark that URL and from then on you can go directly to the classic editor with just one click (on that bookmark).
    You can also use my link here
    https://???.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php
    Just put in the name of your blog instead of the three ??? and I think it’ll work. That’s the way I do it.
    Btw, I will definitetely try the new editor, even if it’s only to have more reasons to complain about it. But who knows, I might put up with it or – even – get to like it. ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Have a nice weekend,
    Pit

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  11. One day I got a notice from WP about my having to change with instructions how to do it. The very next day I got a notice from WP stating if I wanted to continue using the classic method I could with instructions how to do it. I didnโ€™t need the instructions because that is how I have done it since I began. Like so many others, I am just too old to learn the new BS on WP. The only change I want to occur will come in Nov when Trump gets voted out.

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    1. Thanks, Don. I haven’t heard anything from WP yet, but they have apparently ‘forced’ quite a few of the bloggers I follow to change.
      Good luck for November. I hope Joe lives long enough to make a difference. It’s a stressful job!
      Best wishes, Pete.

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  12. I’m sticking with the “classic” via Admin … I schedule far in advance, using draft status, something that seems to run counter to the new “improved” “service.”
    Thanks to all of you for sharing your views and strategies.

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    1. I still have that facility on my Admin dashboard, so use it. Is that what you mean, Jnana? Because WP do intend to replace that with the Block Editor for everyone, as I understand it.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. “People are mostly not happy about this change”
        Pete, allow me to express my doubts. Of course, many people – me included – don’t like the new editor, but we usually only get to know compaints here in the blogosphere. I think there are – possibly a lot of – people who like the new block editor. But – like in most similar cases – they won’t voice their appreciation, and why should they. So, here we only get to know the negative voices.
        “But it appears that WP couldnโ€™t care less.”
        To that, I totally agree.

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  13. I wrote the same type of spiel at my blog…um…two years ago?? :D. I get it! However, once some of the bugs worked out, and, at least in my work life (I provide website services for local entities) the gains made, bugs fixed, etc., have really opened up more flexibility and adaptability for my client sites, though I still struggle sometimes to keep up with the latest/greatest options due to pure stubborness – :).

    My number one ‘complaint’ back then was the inability to just ‘type stream of thought’ but have to stop to ‘choose’ the paragraph block, etc. For some time now, I type like the wind, hit enter, new block auto creates and then…I go back, add in headings (the duplicate feature, move up down feature is great for quickly putting in headings where needed.)

    In my work (I use wordpress.org framework) there is a plug in they have called Classic Editor – while plugin adds aren’t allowed on free accounts, here at WordPress.com, perhaps an upgrade would let you use your beloved preference of writing posts, while you play with the new block, too? (you can set to allow yourself to switch between classic or block editors) – –

    Last I checked, the Classic Editor is slated to be maintained/usable until 2023 – and…well…if you want to use, perhaps an upgrade of your account would be worth it?

    I don’t know, but it’s been over 2 years since there was a huge outcry over the block editor implementation – I just watched a security info video put out by a company that I use their tools, and the founder said, he himself, still prefers the Classic Editor – and hasn’t totally embraced blocks!

    Given the huge outcry, for quite some time, from avid and numerous users, I don’t think the blocks are going away – however, for at least 2+ more years, those who hold out for a return to the version of blogging we hold dear in our heart, we CAN have a return to the old ways –

    For me, given my increasing knowledge of utilizing the block screen, the improvements regularly shoved out since WP version 5.0 (we are now at 5.5…) I will report in, there are times, when I get really excited about “But in a block, I can do this, and this, and this….” and so I convert a page on a site to blocks, and start laying it out better (again, this is using the open source framework on self-hosted sites…). here?

    Well, it’s on my list to ‘upgrade’ once I have the time to spend on my personal blog that will be needed once I upgrade and start putting in the tools I have gotten faster at using – – – ๐Ÿ™‚

    But, I’m in full empathy with you….. ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. Thanks, TamrahJo. I am sure that it works for professionals who are used to new systems and updates, but most of the community are just hobby bloggers like me, and find it hard to adapt. I already have a paid plan upgrade, the Personal Plan, and would be happy to pay more if I could make the blocks go away.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. I can research if you like, but if you are on a plan that allows you to add plugins, here’s the link to the WordPress repository for the Classic Editor plugin – https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/. I have also seen in some forums, folks saying this plugin works ‘better’ but I haven’t tested yet …. I will be testing it out here soon, as I’m seeing it pop up in various forums/groups of web designers/developers more often – and will let you know how it works/doesn’t – https://wordpress.org/plugins/disable-gutenberg/ – – both plugins have a decent amount of users – one of them might work for you!

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          1. Well, I hate to see anyone suffering when they don’t have too – and just because I drive myself crazy diving into new stuff doesn’t mean everyone has to do it too – – LOL
            Tech Promise: “Gain more productivity! There’s an App for that”. Tech Reality “I’m now a slave to running updates, and providing free troubleshooting services to tech companies I pay for the privilege of using their services/tools” – – LOL

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            1. Couldn’t wait to figure out how to share quickly, other than posting at my blog and putting a link here – alas, I did link to this post in my blog – and well – just had to share, though I most likely am a day lay, dollar short, and all – BUT, thought of you, beetleypete, the moment I noticed it and well – – sharing my recent realization with you, just in case you might be in need of such things – ๐Ÿ™‚ That said, I’m on my full desktop computer – I do nothing here other than reading/liking on my phone/tablet via the app – thus, mileage may vary for many – ๐Ÿ™‚ Here’s the link to the post – which has your name in it and link to you – https://ballybin.wordpress.com/2020/09/07/for-beetleypete-and-anyone-else-who/

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  14. this morning- that new editor has had me in almost tears!! I can not get rid of the thing!! I have tried several methods suggested. I saw this post and felt relieved to have some company in my misery. I just want to write and this thing seems so unnecessary. I did not log out, by the way. I know there are awful things in this world-people are suffering in many ways-but I am whining anyway!! Best wishes to all! Michele,

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    1. They will force it on us all eventually, Michele. Have you tried this ‘Classic Block’ that people have mentioned in the comments? It seem better than nothing, and certainly preferable to struggling to learn how to use the Gutenberg nonsense.
      Best wishes, Pete. x

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      1. I can’t use it because, I have a ,com website-ugh-at least that is what I have read. It won’t let me install it, so maybe that is true. I am writing now with that new mess and have not figured it out yet. Time will tell if I am brave enough to publish. I admit that I am not tech savey, but why was this necessary? I may hold a grudge! haha! love Michele

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  15. I haven’t tried it yet, but my experience with MailChimp, which worked similarly, was terrible, so I’m with you. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, is something I strongly believe in. They should offer it as an option but not impose it on everybody. Thanks, Pete.

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    1. WP is not known for listening to its community, especially those who enjoy a free blogging platform. But if we can stir a rumble of protest, at least that might make us feel we have done something.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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        1. You can see from other comments here that there is a ‘Classic Block’ available. I think that’s the closest it is going to get to looking anything like the old editor, Julie.

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  16. I bloody hate the new system. It’s unworkable. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE OLD EDITING SYSTEM! Fortunately I can still gain access to it at the moment. I wish the geeks would pay attention to the following – IF IT AINT BROKEN, DON’T BLOODY FIX IT!!!!!!!!!

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  17. Just from someone who works in Product Development, I wouldn’t get your hopes up. This is just not really how Product Development works. I understand your frustration but if the underlying components that power the old editor conflict with the current and future architectural strategy and where the profit lies (not with us hobby bloggers), it won’t happen.

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  18. I have personally always used the block editor, since I started blogging recently, but I hear many prople are annoyed with it.
    The block edotor certainly has many flaws.
    It doesn’t even allow me to leave a blank line.
    I hope the staff does something

    Best of lucka

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    1. Thanks, Ishaan. For every blogger who says they like the new editor, at least ten others talk about the issues and problems with it. I think the case is made, but WP do not want to hear it.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. You’re welcome sir.
        As for the part in your post about making profit, I often wonder how WP does that. They certainly can’t be making enough money from a handful paid plans to host millions for free?

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        1. Advertising is how they make most of their money. You don’t see the adverts on your own free to use blog, but every other blogger does. And most of their customer service ‘happiness engineers’ are volunteers too. I pay for the ‘Personal Plan’ which removes advertising, and allows me double the space allocation.

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    1. I think we should have the right to choose, given how many years we supported WP. You will see in the replies that WP now provides a ‘Classic Block’, which supposedly replicates the old editor. I still believe some of us, me included, would be more comfortable with what we know and use already.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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  19. I don’t know if you signed up for the WordPress Weekly Digest emails, but the latest one I received, on the 17 August, fulminates about the Block Editor, but it includes a paragraph:

    “If you’d rather stick with the Classic editor experience [!] – the one you used before we introduced the WordPress.com editor a few years ago – no worries. With the new and improved Classic block, you have the best of both editors: the flexibility and stability of the Block editor, and the Classic editor interface you know.”

    Apparently, you can select the Classic editor in WP Admin. I hope this helps; and don’t forget: their Happiness Engineers are standing by! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Cheers, Jon.

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    1. Thanks, Jon. I have heard about the ‘Classic Block’ before. My thoughts are that if they can add that, they can just as easily leave the old one as an option. Thanks for the extra information. ๐Ÿ™‚
      Best wishes, Pete.

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    1. Thanks, Jude. I have heard mention of the Classic Block, but still think they could have left the old editor as an option. Some of us get very confused by change. Blogging is at the outer limit of my skill level with computing and technology and I still struggle at times, without having to worry about new stuff.
      Best wishes, Pete. x

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      1. I played around with the new one on my flower blog which is in semi-retirement and found it very clumsy. Some nice photo features, but poor text. I could use it if necessary, but I don’t like it. I can still select classic editor in wpadmin as I get the choice to use either. Not sure if that’s changed now, I’ll have to look.

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    2. That’s how we do it too, Jude. We don’t like the new editor and go through wp-admin to edit, write and organise our posts. It’s hardly any difference to the old version.

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        1. You click on the W emblem in the top left hand corner of your home page and scroll down to the bottomโ€”admin. Click on that and go to Posts then add new. It takes you to the previous editor, the one before last. I don’t like using it because it’s has-been. They junked it years ago and it’s a round the houses way of posting.

          However, a blogger friend has found a way of posting text copied from Word, as you see it in word and not the way the new editor massacres it. You copy and paste your piece of text, go to a new post in WP, don’t choose any block at all, and instead of pasting by using the normal command+V you simply add shift. Shift+command+V gives you your text with your original spacing. It’s a brilliant discovery!

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  20. Iโ€™m still using the old editor, and still havenโ€™t pressed the button to accept the new one. Since I have heard so much bad news about it, Iโ€™m definitely not planning on using it as long as I can still use the old one (however long that might still be๐Ÿ˜Š).

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    1. Same here. But many have just had it forced on them now, and it is supposedly going to be the only option by the end of this year. I am staying logged on, as I fear that logging out of WP totally will enable them to make me use it now. I keep a shortcut running in Google Chrome, and on my Android tablet, and that doesn’t require my login details when I click on it. I know some bloggers who really like the new Editor, and prefer it, but I still feel that we should have a choice.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. I absolutely agree with you 100% Pete. As I mentioned before, Iโ€™m not someone who is very good with technology, and usually changes such as these certainly are not going to help me all of a sudden in becoming a techno wizard so to speak. Letโ€™s hope we can still use the old editor as long as we want too. I also have that same logged in status, so hopefully that will help ๐Ÿ˜Š

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