The founder of Longshot Island has created a new website/magazine to publish work created with the use of A.I., alongside conventional writing. You will be paid for successful submissions, and he is interested to explore this new genre. This is a contentious area indeed, and sure to spark much debate into the future.
Here is what Daniel has to say about ArtSore.
This is pretty exciting, I think. I’ve been lured out of retirement to start a totally new kind of magazine!
AI is pretty controversial in its youth. Just as men and women compete in different events in the Olympics, so people and AI should not be in the same category.
In ArtSore magazine, you let us know when you submit if your work was assisted by AI or was a purely human only effort. Each month we’ll pick one from each category and publish the two wins online. At the end of the year we’d like to do an anthology of the best works!
We pay one cent per word as we want this to be about art, not money. (I’ve run the highest paying magazines in the world and can tell you more money does not make better art.) If things go well, we’ll pay more later. Nobody is losing money to a machine as a person gets paid either way, A) AI assisted or B) human-only.
AI has a distinct style. But beauty is still in the eye of the beholder. You have to know if the AI generated stories are good before you submit. Running off a thousand stories overnight means you have to read all those stories, no easy task, just ask any publisher.
We’d love to see your work!
Find us at ArtSore dot com. We really appreciate it.
Here is a link if you are interested to read more.
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There is nothing new under the Sun…
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Nothing new here, just brought up to date. I used to write for an outdoor magazine in New Zealand that paid for every offering they printed. Getting the editor’s attention was not easy…
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Thanks for adding your thoughts, Jack. And for reblogging.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I read a day or so ago one outfit closed submissions as they have received too many and the writing was not all that good. Is this the same outfit? Warmest regards, Ed
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I think not, Ed. This site is new, and taking submissions.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Hi Pete,
Thanks for drawing my attention to this interesting site.
I was interested to read the many comments your post has generated. Here is my take on the matter from the perspective of a poet.
Humans (unlike AI) possess emotions, and some of the greatest poetry (and literature more generally) flows from an outpouring of emotion. For example Keats’s “Ode to a Nightingale” expresses the poet’s feelings evoked by the singing of the bird. He beautifully expresses his wish to die, but then goes on to say that where he to cease to be, the beautiful song of the bird would go unheard by him. Other poets have reacted to birdsong in diverse ways.
To state the obvious, an AI has no ability to authentically react poetically to the singing of birds, nor to anything else. Chat GPT (and other similar AIS) can draw on a vast database of poetry and other literature. They can not, however comprehend what they are drawing on, nor can they feel the emotions actuating the poems on which they draw.
The appreciation of literature is, to some extent at least a subjective matter. For instance Wordsworth is considered to be a great poet by many (including me). However, I have a friend who studied English literature at degree level, who is no fan of Wordsworth’s poetry. Likewise, some people will no doubt consider AI poetry (or some of it) to be good, or even great, while others will not. So the question will remain a matter of subjective judgement.
I have played around with Chat GPT. I found the experience interesting, but I’m not at all worried that it means the metaphorical death of the human author.
Best wishes. Kevin
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Thanks for adding your thoughts, and your personal experience with AI. I have no interest in using it, but I do feel that it might become heavily used in Exams, Essays, and Writing Projects. Like most technological innovations, it will become easier to use, and many more software applications will emerge in the future. It makes me uncomfortable to imagine people selling lots of books they have not written.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I’ve seen plenty of people talking about it and finding uses for it. I can see how it could be used to create forms or standardised replies, leaflets… but not for anything truly creative. I remember there were some tools we used to help students learn how to write basic 5 paragraph essays, but the suggestions were all pretty similar and didn’t make for a very enriching reading experience. I guess it will become very common, but even if it is only used for adding up references and research, this will all come from the same sources, and it is unlikely to result in anything truly novel, although I guess it depends on how much AI can learn and evolve. Thanks, Pete. We shall see.
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Until the AI can become self-aware and think for itself, it only has the current stock of millions of books to draw upon. But I am not sure that AI being self-aware is to be desired.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I’ve buried my head in the sand about this, but now I see it everywhere, and inevitably it will happen. I find it sad when something creative like writing is reduced to another human intervention. What’s next? Should we have machines create pottery, paintings, etc.? Using automation to make something is one thing, but if I were a single guy, would I rely on AI to send a poem of love? UGH!!!
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I feel much the same as you, Pete. I think people will still paint, create pottery and sculpture, and continue to write poetry. But how long that lasts into an ‘automated future’ remains to be seen. I already know some younger people who have never written a letter, bought a stamp, watched a DVD, or listened to a CD. They have never written a cheque or been into a bank, and some have never used cash to pay for anything. Once us oldies are gone, the world will be a very different place.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Reading the comments…I hear everyone and I can see some pluses for some people however I love going down a rabbit hole like Alice… who knows where I will end up and what I will discover in the process… to me it will bring about a dumbing down of the human brain and remove the spontaneity and originality . That scares me …x
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I think the future is here already, and people our age are the last of the ‘analogue generations’.
Best wishes, Pete. x
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As far as I’m concerned, the final word on whether art (i.e., art as expression of what makes us human) can be machine-generated is found in Federico García
Lorca’s essay “Theory and Play of the Duende.” https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Spanish/LorcaDuende.php I feel a rant coming on, so I’ll leave it at that.
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A long read but oh so worth it…Thank you, Liz… I love this rabbit warren of tunnels this read took me down… it has helped me understand or unjumbled my thoughts ..difficult to explain but thank you 🙂
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You’re welcome, Carol. I’m so glad you found Lorca’s essay a worthwhile read. Ever since I first read it in a Craft of Poetry course, it’s served as a manifesto for me.
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I can understand that Liz it makes perfect sense and gets to the very essence of our being …
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“Essence” is the word I would use as well.
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Always feel free to rant, Liz.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Be careful what you wish for, Pete. 😉
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I enjoy rants. 🙂 🙂
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So do I, particularly those of an academic nature.
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An opportunity to submit either purely human generated short stories, or AI/human stories. Thanks to Pete for flagging this. Kevin
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Many thanks, Kevin.
Best wishes, Pete.
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A.I. creates some amazing visual art, but I have no interest in reading stories written by, or with the use of, artificial intelligence. I should add that ArtSore is a terrible name.
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I have no idea why that name was chosen, David.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I find this concept eerie. It will be a sad day when a machine replaces the artist. Humanity will lose its creative edge.
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I definitely agree, Molly.
Best wishes, Pete.
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It’s very interesting and I would like to see how it works, but I want nothing to do with it. I can only imagine the knot I’d end up in!
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I struggle with new applications, so you will never see it on this blog.
Best wishes, Pete.
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YOu know the problem is all the AI I’ve read reads like midlevel commercial pablum. Bad dialogue, authorial explanations and chapter wraps, adverbly and or cliched tags. Put AI up against a lot of what’s on the bookshelves and AI will simply by telling a complete, if clip art laden story in a straight line. Which is sad. We’re going to have to look backwards at literature to find what it can’t do.
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If it can eventually match Dickens, we are lost!
Best wishes, Pete.
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First, we have to get it to write a sentence that runs for two pages! And tell it Look, write this like you’re getting paid by the word🤣
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I think encouraging the development of AI is playing with fire.
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It is a technology in its infancy, and should be watched carefully to make sure it doesn’t end up taking us over instead of helping us.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Hal in A Space Odyssey was a form of AI.
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Yes indeed, and look how that turned out. 🙂
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I might be interested in reading AI contributions to see what all the fuss is about, but I am not going to use it t9 write. I love the writing process too much.
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I like the mental challenge too. If I used AI, it just wouldn’t be the same.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I have a pragmatic approach to creating my own blog posts with the assistance of artificial intelligence. For example, I often outline a post with the use of AI because AI has a lot of information stored in it that saves loads of research time.
The thing is that I do not use AI-generated materials without re-writing and re-organizing the thoughts presented by the AI and then fleshing it all out with writing that is produced purely by myself.
So AI can be a helpful assistant but it would never become the sole writer because as has already been said, it definitely is flat as hell and it never uses profanity— and I love to inject profanity sometimes for shock value —
If a writer uses AI properly then it saves having to scrounge through endless printed books and media to find the outlines for the blog posts ….It helps to save hours of time and it can often fill an article with useful and educational material that might have been overlooked in manual research.
So when you read one of my blog posts, you are probably reading 99.5 percent of my original insanity, and the other five-tenths is suggested (Never used verbatim) to me so that I can think about it, research a little further or rewrite it using my unique inbuilt intellectual algorithm. We are all one kind of computer or another whether we want to admit it or not — we are walking, talking computers wrapped in a covering of living flesh and bone.
Think about that one a little bit before concluding that the world would be far better off without light bulbs, flush toilets, and other modern conveniences that came about as progressive technological gems.
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Thanks very much for adding your own thoughts and experience, John.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I wouldn’t know how to use AI. I think I’d rather write my own stories anyway.
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I would never use it, but I think its day will come. Much the same way as streaming is set to kill off conventional TV and films.
Thanks, Max.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Link worked for me using iPad.
Your post is one of several (mine included) I’ve seen today on the subject of AI
There’s just something about any AI produced works that I’ve seen and that is they comes over a being very ‘flat’. No life in them ( pun not intended)
WordPress is trialling a new ‘experimental’ feature – AI paragraphs. Several paragraphs (not whole essays) produced fro a post title/question.
You’re right when you say ….it’ll be of interest to young ones….
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Thanks for letting me know the link worked, Cathy. AI doesn’t appeal to me, but I suspect it will become the norm in the near-future, and widely accepted by today’s children.
They will eventually say things like “People used to actually spend years writing books?”
Best wishes, Pete.
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Will that kill the idea of creative writing? Does not sound like something that would appeal to me. chuq
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No doubt the AI will eventually be ‘expanded’ to become creative. But it will currently only have existing work to draw from. Not something that appeals to me to use.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Interesting idea, and I wish it well. Cheers, Jon.
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Thanks, Jon. I think it is ‘the future’. Whether that is a bad thing remains to be seen.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Indeed. There’s no Facebook share link from Daniel’s page, so I’ll share your post, if that’s ok?
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Fine with me. Thanks, Jon.
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Thanks Pete 😀
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The link is knacked Pete, not that I’d use it, not being a writer of real words or AI ones!
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Strange. I just clicked on the link and it worked instantly. Thanks for letting me know it didn’t work for you.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Computer says NO! 🤣
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Maybe it’s an ‘Apple’ thing?
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Am at work, on a Lenovo with Windows.
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Not that then…
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I’ll try again tonight at home.
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I figured it out. You click on the WELCOME word. If you click on the other bit of it it tells you that page can’t be found.
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Aha. I must have been clicking on the right place. 🙂
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Me too. DOA link.
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Still working for me. I replaced the first link too.
Best wishes, Pete.
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See Fraggle’s comment above. 🙂
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I wouldn’t know how to use AI. I think I’d rather write my own stories anyway.
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Me too. But I think it is going to become ‘the thing’ for the younger generation.
Best wishes, Pete.
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From what I’ve read it, I will never use AI. Your own words tell more than a machine or whatever you call it.
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I reckon it wil become acceptable to much younger people, Arlene. And more popular in some genres than in others.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I mean from what I read of it…..sorry!
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