91 thoughts on “Just Another Normal Day In America”

  3. I don’t see why they couldn’t keep the ‘right to arms’ but restrict it to handguns and put rules in place to limit semi automatic guns to people who needed them for their jobs. That, and bettrer care for the mentally sick would at least reduce the ody count.

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    1. An automatic pistol can hold up to 15 bullets, Julie. If they could only buy one pistol, someone could still kill 15 people. Then if they reloaded,15 more, and so on. The size of the gun is not really the issue.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. Shocking! When there was a mass shooting at a school in Scotland in the nineties, the laws were soon changed to ban guns and there have been no school shootings ever since. Wish it was the same case in the US.

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  5. It seems like the biggest contributor to this discussion is ctabone 26 and yet when I link to ctabone26 all I get is a blue screen and something about cars. Why is cta hiding? What is really behind cta?

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      1. Arizona. . . Thank you very much. Why is it that others always grasp at the neferious when confronted with the other side to an issue? My point yesterday is that there are solutions to end mass shootings in schools. Solutions that have been promoted since 1999. Yet, our government seems to be ‘dead’ set against this solution. And isn’t it very disturbing that these mass shootings just happen to take place at the most opportunistic moments for liberals in the U.S. Noodle on that for a bit. Then check it out.

        Cheers,
        CT

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  7. There is no denying the tragedy of mass murder. My heart goes out to all affected. It is truly “MADNESS”, as my neighbor Cheryl Oreglia noted, having hit the nail squarely on the head. . .

    Two areas need to be addressed, and simply trying to remove guns from the law-abiding populous isn’t one of them. Why? Because gun ownership has been prevalent here in North America for over 250 years. Yet, we have only been seeing this ‘near maleficent’ behavior for approximately the last 20 or so years. As persons smarted than I have shown, it is clearly a convergence of two trending lines:

    First is a downwardly tracking social morality that has slid to a level well below what could be considered ‘decent’.

    Second is a trend line that shows the prevalence of people suffering from mental illness having been mainstreamed into the general population, which has risen to levels that continually threaten the safety of the society at large, essentially having reached epidemic proportions.

    A good argument could be made to arm everyone, not disarm the responsible members of society.

    I’m not in agreement with that solution, but I’m not in disagreement with the logic: People here in Arizona are pretty chill for the most part. A lot more so than in California, where road rage in Silicon Valley was a daily event. I think that knowing that we are all capable of being armed legally just about anywhere other than public airports and establishments that serve liquor has a lot to do with the ‘chill’ attitudes here.

    Having lived here now for nearly 2 years? I will have to admit, an ‘Armed Society’ certainly seems to be a polite society too.

    Disgusted and appalled by it all,

    CT

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    1. It goes back a lot further than 20 years, Chris. I can remember the Texas Tower shootings in 1966, 16 killed and 31 injured. I was 14 years old then, and now I am 70, and they have happened every single year for most of my life. It is because you can buy the guns.That’s it, full stop. There is no other credible argument I’m afraid. Keep being able to buy the guns, and your people will keep being killed.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. There are too many guns in circulation to stop it, and that’s a fact. Acceptance to that truth, and to what I have proposed elsewhere on this thread is a logical set of solutions.

        But then, I am approaching all of this from the grounded perspective that this world has good and evil, and that this situation is by design.

        As such, it is clear from all the evidence that this place exists for us to have our character tested. . . The evil of this place has convinced many that “this place” is it. It is not, at least not for our soul’s life, Again, this is an existence designed for us all to be tested. Simple as that.

        It all gets so much easier what a person realizes and then accepts this truth.

        Sadly some cannot wrap their heads around the concept and are doomed to suffer this place rather that spend their time making good choices about how they interact with it.

        Cheers,

        CT

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  10. The ‘well regulated militia’ part seems to have disappeared in the interpretations of our courts.
    Time to label all the Republican Senators and Governor Abbot, and a hell of a lot of others ASSESSORIES TO MASS MURDER. Warmest regards, Ed

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          1. Arizona. . . Thank you very much. Why is it that others always grasp at the neferious when confronted with the other side to an issue? My point yesterday is that there are solutions to end mass shootings in schools. Solutions that have been promoted since 1999. Yet, our government seems to be ‘dead’ set against this solution. And isn’t it very disturbing that these mass shootings just happen to take place at the most opportunistic moments for liberals in the U.S. Noodle on that for a bit. Then check it out.

            Cheers,
            CT

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  11. Everyone here is terrified of losing their freedom and so they are slaves to an outdated constitution. When I got the vote I considered it my civic duty to vote for the good of all, not necessarily what I preferred. What a novel idea that was.

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    1. If I lived there I would be in fear of guns 24/7. One of the main reasons why I have never been to America. It is a gun-crazy madhouse! I never understood why you choose to live there, I realy didn’t.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. I live here – and I never thought I would see it happen where I live, but it did. Texas governor changed the state’s laws to beat California in gun ownership. As far as I am concerned, all these people who want the Constitution respected should respect the time period in which it was written – flint locks and black powder. If we didn’t have familial and employment responsibility, we have seriously considered emigrating to an English-speaking bit of the planet with rights for women (nowadays esp. abortion and reproductive rights), gun laws, good medical care, and a bit of civilization. I am sick of the way our country is going, the nationalistic “Christian” right, and on and on and on.

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  12. One more point to make here Pete if you don’t mind…our President went on TV to plead for action to end these horrific acts, through intelligent restrictions and guidelines to make it more difficult for lunatics to act out their despicable fantasies…that speech was shown on a Network here in the US that is owned by an Australian family – the Host openly mocked and laughed at the speech – this is the network that propagates lies and misinformation daily, and actively promotes a racial war as taking place right now in the country….they actively promote the undermining of our electoral process – and therefore our democracy – they are Australian, their last name is Murdoch and they will ultimately reap what they sow…

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    1. The Murdochs have far too large a slice of worldwide media. They also own and run TV channels and newspapers over here. Rupert is an evil old man, undoubtedly.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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    2. Sadly? They all propagate lies and misinformation daily John, in an attempt to divide us, confuse us, and demoralize us. And it is a coordinated effort done so by design.

      I thought everyone knew that about the mainstream media by now? I mean, after all of the times they have been caught ‘dead to rights’ “lying and misinforming” during the last 4-5 years, how can anyone of reasonable intelligence trust a word they say?

      Cheers,

      CT

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    1. It also seems unlikely that the gun owners would hand them all back if the law ever changed, Don. I have read reports of some people over there owning 100+ guns in one household. There are more weapons privately owned in the US than in the armies of most countries.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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  15. The problem lies not with guns themselves but with the shredded moral fabric of American society and lax regulations/law enforcement. I grew up shooting guns, and never entertained the thought of killing anyone. I wasn’t much of a hunter, but I did enjoy target practice with rifles and pistols, and especially enjoyed pulverizing clay birds with a shotgun. Political and racial division, along with the deterioration of family values and rampant disrespect for the law, has poisoned our society by creating a culture of hate.

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    1. I doubt British people will ever agree with Americans about guns, David. The fact remains that the 18 year-old shooter could legally buy the guns in the first place. That’s why he was able to kill those children and people, whatever the messed-up motivation behind the act.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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    2. The fact is that it is very easy for mentally ill nut jobs to get a gun in the US. Throw-downs are easy to get, too, if you know the right people. Laws are there to regulate, but they don’t work.

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      1. It has to start somewhere. The privately owned guns should be taken by the government, and financial compensation given. Guns can be bought illegally in the UK too, but we don’t have 393,000,000 of them sitting in private homes as a nice stockpile. If nothing changes in the US, that country will have to live with these daily shootings forever.
        Best wishes, Pete.

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      1. Nope, not a chance Pete. And there are ~1,000,000,000 reasons why each year.

        The Left owns the media and doesn’t want you to know about those ~1M times a year a gun is used for good here in the U.S. That’s a tragedy all on its own. “No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides.” To ignore this side of the facts is disingenuous ;-(

        And. . . Isn’t it interesting that these tragedies keep happening in “Gun Free” zones? 😦

        IMHO? we should have made Police on-site mandatory at all schools back after the Columbine tragedy in Colorado back in1999 for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the deterrence to visits by deranged individuals who would know they would be confronted by trained, armed resistance from the get-go.

        Cheers,
        CT

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        1. ‘The Left owns the media’? I thought you said earlier that Murdoch controls the media. I cannot think of anyone further to the Right than Murdoch.
          Best wishes, Pete.

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          1. When did I say Murdoch controls the Media? Clearly, in this country you have the Liberal media carrying the narrative Pete, something like 4-1.

            Too bad most of us left California in the last two years and shut down our private gun club (12 members).
            I could of had you over for a visit and you could come to the club and see how rational people think about our situation. All of very accomplished, well read, and concerned about the decay of society.
            We are highly trained, and well understand the threats of a society filled with idiots and firearms.

            If you came we could have shot clays in the morning with the sun at our backs, then moved down into our shaded lower pistol and .22 range for lunch and an early afternoon shoot, then moved up top and played a bit of bocce until the sun dipped over the hills. Then we would get out the big iron and shoot on the long range in the fading light.

            Next was cocktails, wives, kids (who were always welcome to shoot, and often did) and some form of appitisers/casual supper, usually grilled or smoked.

            We did various forms of this 3-5 days a week.

            Best 10 years of my life.

            I think it could have changed your perspective.

            Cheers,
            CT

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  20. As an American, I speak with almost certainty—we won’t learn.
    After each shooting we’re told that the very firearms killing us just about anywhere anytime — is what’s keeping us safe. I had a “friend” dismiss what happened in Buffalo, NY as a we don’t have enough guns thing. The public is no longer shocked by the violence (which is worse) and just goes about their day. You would think 3 in a week and half would be enough, sadly no. Just another reason I hope to not raise a future child here. The “right to bear arms” has become a right to stack the dead. It sucks from a travel perspective too. Who wants to visit a country where people are armed up more than Rambo and almost anyone can legally get a gun? Sad.

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    1. Thanks for your American perspective. Living in a country with more guns than people seems like a daily nightmare to me. I am glad I don’t have to face that here.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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      2. Yup. You’ve got enough trouble dealing with a government that clearly doesn’t have its subjects’ best interests at heart currently. . . Ohhh, I know you think you a citizen, but clearly, those down south thinking you’re much more like a “subject”. . . This too shall pass.

        Cheers Pete.

        CT

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    2. I’m not okay in any way, shape, or form with the tragedies. They absolutely sicken me. But the facts are these. ~1,000,000,000 are alive, and are not the victims of violent crime every year because of a good guy with a gun. I know, those persnickety ‘facts’. Noodle on that. Some good reading below from a neutral source:

      https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/how-many-lives-are-saved-by-guns-and-why-dont-gun-controllers-care/

      Remorsefully,
      CT

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      1. Sadly, it won’t change. The same people who demand the right to control a woman’s personal health decision also claim those words you shared speak forever to every single type of killing device there is…it is madness indeed

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        1. Sadly true, John. They claim to want to preserve life by banning abortion, then head to the gun shop after to increase their collection of things that kill people. I actually think it is going to get worse.
          Best wishes, Pete.

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    1. It is an 18th century anachronism (from a time of war with Britain) that has no place in any ‘civilised’ society in 2022, Sue. But they only care if it is ‘their’ children who are killed. Even then, they famously refuse to give up their guns.
      Best wishes, Pete.

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