Last month I wrote about having extras on my car that confused me.
As mentioned, I went back to the dealership to try to resolve the issue with the experts there. This is what haopened.
I was dealt with by the sales manager, who was very helpful and showed me that nothing was too much trouble when it came to helping a customer. I discussed the speed-sensitive wipers at first, which confused him. He told me that speed-sensitive wipers are not an option on my car. We moved the car around the dealership forecourt, and could find no evidence of speed sensitivity, probably because it wasn’t raining hard enough. In the extensive settings menu, there is no option to turn the function off, as it supposedly doesn’t exist.
When I said that my wife confirmed the same thing when she drove the car, he could only suggest that it was not a normal UK option, but had somehow been added to this particular car because it had previously been a manufacturer’s demonstration car when the new model came out. So I have to conclude that I am supposed to be lucky to have the feature, one that very few other drivers of the same car have benefited from.
Even though I don’t want it.
Next, we proceeded to the Satnav. He admitted straight off that he also found it illogical in the way it operates, but he was happy to spend some considerable amount of time to show me how to get the best from it. I wrote everything down as he slowly went through each step of the operation, as I knew I would not remember the complicated procedure ten minutes after I had left. By the time he had finished the tutorial, I had two full sides of notes on an A4 sheet of paper. A crib sheet that I must never lose.
He went much further, happily entering in some destinations for me that I had to visit over the next few days, and then showing me how to recall those destinations from the ‘History’ function. When I was satisfied that I could use the basics of the system with the help of my notes, I thanked him and left. He told me to pop back anytime if I needed more help, and there was no mention of any charge or fee for his time.
That left me very impressed with the customer service from this dealership, and confirmed my experience since moving from London to Norfolk.
‘Buy locally’.
Just curious but the wiper speed, is it when you’re driving or just stationary (at traffic lights etc) that the speed alters ? My previous car would change from normal speed to slow when the car was stationary.
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It goes faster ( as in the setting on the control lever) at full speed, then drops to the lower level when the car is in traffic. At a full stop, like traffic lights, it becomes ‘intermittent’. It is supposed to be a ‘good feature’, but I just find it irritating, Claire.
Best wishes, Pete.
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That’s exactly what my car did, it was energy saving on my hybrid car.
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Thank goodness he went slowly and let you write everything down. Having it in History should help…maybe. Today I had to drive to a new place, and I realized how much I missed a hard copy map. The wipers issue is just awful.
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I still have map books, Jennie. I have one of the entire country, and a detailed one of the county of Norfolk. I would never want to have to rely on a Satnav only.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I do, too! They give you the whole picture. When planning a drive or a trip, we pull out the maps first of all.
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Here we only have one key for the new car. Apparently Toyota still can’t manage to make two. We have been warned that if we lose it we will be unable to drive the car. The manufacturers seem to be having trouble meeting normal expectations( keys, manuals, etc.)
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Is there not a company that will make copy keys for your car? We have those over here. I would be worried about only having one key. We keep the spare key safely shut away in a drawer in case the primary one is lost. This is one company in the UK that offers replacement or additonal keys, there are many others.
https://key-assist.co.uk/?gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwvfmoBhAwEiwAG2tqzD8Mmo-0ZSC842Zgj99b6vsHEiYfujHWqAQ_NF-gdGv4pR5Hpwbr7xoC7k8QAvD_BwE
Best wishes, Pete.
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No apparently the key is so computer laden that no one can make a duplicate. I thought the same before I found that out.
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That’s a shame.
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Have you checked out the manuals for new vehicles these days? I’ve seen smaller Bibles. 🤣
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One of my (reasonably wealthy) neighbours has a very expensive Audi car. He was told that there is no manual of any kind, just some basic operating advice that has to be accessed online. They claim this is to ‘save paper’. They also suggested he take it back to the dealership to discuss anything he doesn’t understand, which would incur a charge in his case.
I have to presume that they reckon if you can afford the car (upwards of £50,000 depending on extras) you can afford to pay for advice.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Taking it to the dealership to “discuss anything” and then having to pay for it is one of my pet peeves. My air conditioning doesn’t work intermittently. They ran a test and told me it was within “normal specifications.” Never mind that sometimes it blows warm air. I understand they might no be able to diagnose the problem, but what did I pay for???
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That’s why I was so pleased when my car’s dealer sat explaining things to me for so long, and didn’t mention a word about any payment. And that was on a used car that is well out of warranty.
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I don’t even know what speed-sensitive wipers are. Don’t I feel stupid!
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They go faster when the car is going fast, and slow down when you are in slow traffic or at a dead stop. This operates despite whatever you have them set to on the control lever.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Uh, how about that.
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I have run into an “option” that my vehicle doesn’t have, so I can’t turn it off. One learns to be continually annoyed (*rather than learning to live with it). Warmest regards, Ed
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It would be nice if they would just standardise all cars, but I doubt that will ever happen now.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Not as long as they can charge extra for some features. Warmest regards, Ed
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I hit the restroom this morning. Speed-sensitive wipers don’t exist there either.
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Nicely done, David! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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I had my “car extras” meltdown this past weekend, three hours from home. Why couldn’t we have a car that operates with a key??
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At least my car still has an ignition key. I have heard many horror stories about being unable to get into ‘keyless cars’.
Best wishes, Pete,.
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Liz, you probably do have a hidden compartment to operate your car with the key hidden in your key-fab. It’s in case your fab battery dies unexpectedly.
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My husband just showed it to me. *facepalm* It doesn’t even look like a key!
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haha!
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I’m glad you have such a decent chap as a dealer. It’s nice to know such people still exist. I often long for a time when life was less complicated by unwanted technology.
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Most traders and shopkeepers in Norfolk are very fair and approachable. A different world to London.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Many of these modern conveniences just don’t seem that convenient to me ~ only more complicated, more wasteful of dwindling planetary resources ~ and much, much more expensive (my van will be an antique next year, but I can still copy my key for $5!)
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Do not let the satnav feature drive you into a river. Mine tried to do that to me once in Michigan. I ended up at river’s edge staring an enormous power plant in the face. Most disconcerting since I cannot swim.
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I am very wary of Satnavs, John. I generally use a paper map-book, and only use the Satnav when I am somewhere out of my ‘comfort zone’.
Best wishes, Pete.
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At first i have to apologize for another delay, Pete! I hope you all are well and enjoy the week. Some years in the past i had made the first time similar experiences with these speed-sensitive wipers. It felt like a restless toddler was sitting on the windshield. There are definitely inventions which could stay in the box. Best wishes, Michael
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No need to apologise, Michael. I have got used to the wipers now, but would have preferred not to have them.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Thanks for your understanding, Pete! xx Michael
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DEfinitely! 👌
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I’m glad you got some good customer service from them dealership and was able to get some help. Have you tried to do an Internet search for how to disable the wipers function?
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He did it at the dealership, and the car doesn’t actually have any way to disable the function if it is fitted as a cost option, Jeanne.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Hi Pete, I’m really glad you got good help at the dealership. It’s nice to hear positive stories like this.
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Customer service in this region is generally uniformly excellent, Robbie.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Great to see good customer service, Pete…Norfolk was a good move for you!
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In terms of goods and services, I have never experienced better, Sue.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Good to hear!
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Great to see good service, Pete. Just in case, make a copy of the satnav instructions, because we all know sometimes circumstances conspire against us…
Fingers crossed it all helps make life easier.
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Thanks, Olga. I have the instructions in the glove box of the car, never to be removed! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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Sounds like an enlightening experience….also sounds much better than tech support I recently got from WP….hope all works out with the car. chuq
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Thanks, chuq. Face to face help is so much better than ‘Live Chat’ with robots! 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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y true….I hope your problems are solved for your mental serenity. chuq
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so if you live down south in Goodwood, you buy a Royce ???
or in my case a McLaren ?
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It doesn’t matter which make or model, (I get the joke) as long as the dealer has invested in the local community and knows he has to have a loyal customer base to continue to trade.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I love the explanation about the wipers, funny really. and happy he offered you all the time and support that you needed, it seems rare in customer service these days
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Since moving out of London, I have found that countryside shops and service providers go the extra mile to make customers happy. They need to maintain a good reputation in much smaller communities, or they won’t survive.
Best wishes, Pete.
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such a great difference
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I’ve always had good service too from the Honda dealers at Bury, but every few months they send me yet another invite to a new launch. My Jazz is 9 years old now, and still going strong at 48,000 miles. I’ll keep it for a while longer.
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I get those ‘VIP’ invites from local car dealers too. I suppose they have to keep on top of their marketing strategies. I will be keeping this car for at least another five years, possibly longer. (If I live that long! 🙂 )
Best wishes, Pete.
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We’ll be selling both cars in 2025 and buying just one new car, as by then we’ll both be retired.
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When Julie retires in 2027, we will have a rethink about cars too.
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I fully endorse the ‘buy locally’ ethic, where it’s practicable. Cheers, Jon.
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Since moving to Norfolk, I had had excellent service from local shops and suppliers. Everything from tyre suppliers, to new TV aerials, even the man who cuts my grass and hedges. The supermarket staff are incredibly helpful too, and remember me. The experience is like being on another planet, compared to life in London, Jon.
Best wishes, Pete.
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That is great customer service!
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I have yet to experience any bad customer service in Norfolk, FR. I think operating in the countryside means they have to try harder to keep a customer base. Even the staff at the huge Tesco are really friendly and helpful, and many of the same ones have worked there since I moved here. They actually remember me, and some ask about my dog. 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
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Thank God I don’t have a car anymore…
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If I lived in a town, I wouldn’t have one either, Jack.
Best wishes, Pete.
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I can understand why you don’t want the other things but what’s wrong with the engine cut-out function? Surely it cuts down emissions?
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It is supposed to help with fuel economy, but the wear and tear on the starter motor and battery would wipe out that saving if both needed replacing too soon. The car is already very ‘Green’, supposedly. It is exempt from ULEZ in London, as an example, and that’s without the Stop/Start, which is not standard on all models in the range.
Best wishes, Pete.
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